Journal 2017


December 29, 2017
7:00 am

After 6 months of awe, hilarity, mystery, shock and revelation, we’ve reached our first milestone of 100 conversations this week.

North of the Internet began as a vague notion between two friends across the world. We wanted to explode the idea of generic “interviews” into honest-to-God conversations — often zoned-out, unpredictable meditations on creative peoples’ inner lives, set in an almost shockingly bare North-point of deep gray.

What’s transpired since then is honestly hard to believe. Many of our subjects have gone on to become amazing curators themselves — Steve Albini, Eric Slick, David Babbitt, Bas Mantel and more.

We’ve enjoyed plunging strangers and friends who might have expected to talk about the product they’re hawking into a meditation on time, astronomy, memory and the universe.

In order to support our continued existence with the same austerity and beauty we’ve tried to build NOTI on, we expanded into an online shop.

For our final week of 2017, we spoke with:

Fernando Viciconte
Jackie Greene
Dean Spunt
Langhorne Slim

and to top it off, we thought there could be no better subject to be our 100th than the inimitable Thor Harris.

We will be back January 8 with conversation 101 and beyond. Thank you to all who have read, shared and supported North of the Internet.


Main curators:
Morgan Enos
Julien Fernandez

Guest curators:
Mia Cioffi Henry
Brenna Ehrlich

Second-degree curators:
Steve Albini
Eric Slick
Bas Mantel
Alexis Gideon
William Schaff
Eugene Robinson
David Babbitt

December 22, 2017
8:00 am

The method a spider uses to weave a web from its own silk is a breathtaking thing.

Among other properties of any given web, it’s constructed so that if any segment is disturbed, a vibration will be felt throughout, alerting its weaver to any danger.

I see this week’s subjects as generally peaceful, yet reactive and environmental types. Any disturbance will be noted and keenly felt.

Clive Hacker
Eugene Robinson < Lisa Carver
Bas Mantel < Nat Hawks
Dave Levine
Honus Honus

What gets a rise out of you?


December 15, 2017
7:00 am

We live in a world of containers upon containers upon containers. Not just as in the glass containing your beverage, but mental containers, emotional containers, spiritual containers.

It’s all compartmentalization. Do you like or love that person? Was the past better than the present? Are you spiritual, but not religious? How far will you go with what you really enjoy doing?

This week, we spoke with 5 creative people about the true nature of finity.

Patterson Hood
William Schaff < MorganEve Swain
Alice Carbone Tench
Jon Bartel
Henry Jamison

Their answers may surprise you!


December 8, 2017
8:00 am

I think that the first moment of true education is in knowing your context. You’re born and you’re in life, and you live in a building, on a street, in a town, in a country, et cetera, et cetera…

Here at NOTI, we want to question the divisions between the microcosmic and the macrocosmic, the universes between molecular structures and galaxy clusters.

Luckily, we have these five broad-minded subjects to help us understand these jaw-dropping spaces and dimensions.

Jon Porras
Brenna Ehrlich < Danya Kukafka
Josh Lovelace
Randall Sena
Stephen Steinbrink

Stay interdimensional!


December 1, 2017
8:30 am

In the midst of the November darkness and wind, we’ve been holed up and revamping the internal structure of North of the Internet.

This way, we have hammered our flag on the surface of this dreamy, greyscale realm for good, laying claim to the North.

Along the way, two guest curators have joined this oddball operation — cinematographer Mia Cioffi Henry and author Brenna Ehrlich.

This week, you can read Mia’s conversation with composer Laurie Spiegel and Brenna’s conversation with young-adult author Jeff Zentner.

Also, our co-founder Morgan spoke with luminaries Dan Wilson and Max Gomez.

Let us know what you discovered!


November 24, 2017
8:00 am

The poison dart frog is one of the only deadly amphibians in the world. They’re not toxic when kept in captivity, but when they feast on certain insects, they develop enough poison to kill ten grown men.

To warn other animals, they develop wildly colorful, quasi-psychedelic markings, like the rainforest manifestation of a Jefferson Airplane song.

I like to think that some creatives simultaneously make the world prettier and cultivate a subtle, lethal defense against those with ill intent.

We spoke with five of them:

Alec Ounsworth
Hod Hulphers
MC Dälek
Brandon Geurts

Plus, a special second degree conversation between David Babbitt and Nikola Sekulovič.

Stay bright, stay jarring!


November 17, 2017
6:20 am

As NOTI expands more and more every week with daily conversations, it reminds me of why we exist — to become a sort of serene little island in the midst of chaos, a grayscale space to have alone-time with your and others’ thoughts. This way, we hope to reach a deeper level, the dreamy subtext to the rigid everyday.

By subtracting outside noise and distortion, our minds wandered into the realms of jellyfish, mellotrons, human connection, geometric objects and turkeys with:

Colin Blunstone
Chris White
Haley Fohr
Ralph Molina
Alec Dartley
Meredith Schneider

What happens when you hit “mute”?


November 10, 2017
6:15 am

65 conversations, one brand-new online shop, one weird, uncontrollable pirate ship of a publication that seems destined for deeper and darker waters.

I feel that it’s worth mentioning that we are ad-free, owned by no secret big company, not throwing a loft party somewhere, just the product of tireless intention to reinvent conversation.

I’m so glad these folks are here to join us:

David Crosby
Terra Lightfoot
Guro Moe

As a bonus, we’re happy to invite Steve Albini on-board as a curator and unveil his conversation with the maniac poker-player Brandon Shack-Harris.

Stay guessing!


November 6, 2017
8:00 am

We are absolutely thrilled to announce the opening of the official North of the Internet online shop, featuring stylish sticker sheets, black nickel pins and extremely high-quality T-shirts designed by Bas Mantel and Julien Fernandez.

Head over to our shop now for a new way to make NOTI’s commitment to dignity, minimalism & beauty your own!

To celebrate this launch, we are proud to present a special conversation with David Crosby, formerly of The Byrds and Crosby, Stills & Nash.

We are ecstatic to bring North of the Internet into the physical realm. Go forth – browse, read, shop and keep in touch!


Morgan, Julien & Mia

November 3, 2017
6:30 am

Today, after 4 months of hard work, we reached the beautiful number of 60 conversations.

They generated 2319 taxonomy terms and 60 conceptual graphs built through our algorithm made of this basic rule:

Expectation of Answer + Actual Answer x Conditional Variables ≠ Question.

This week we had six conversations featuring pigs, soap, money, colors, quantum theories and caffeine fluctuations:

William Akins
Brian Wnukowski
Leah Toth
Neal Breton
Marisa Anderson
Micah Schnabel

Keep checking North of the Internet every weekday morning!



October 27, 2017
6:30 am

I can only speak for myself, but I think it’s a far more radical idea to subtract than to add, to strip things back, to throw unnecessary elements in the fire to create something pure.

While I think Julien and I founded North of the Internet along those lines, I don’t think I’ve ever truly achieved pure subtraction in my life.

So I decided to talk to six people who have.

Jeff Oster
William Ackerman
Kevin Greenspon
Caleb Nichols
Trinidad Escobar
Darin Gray

Sign up for our weekly newsletterand watch the process of elimination unfold!


October 20, 2017
9:15 am

We’re now deep into the most introspective time of the year.

For our second full week of conversations, I thought I’d focus on some independent, multidisciplinary creators, those who’d seem more apt to mysteriously hole up for days than make themselves conspicuous at the pub.

Here’s what they had to say:

Lukas Nelson
Jon Langford
Meagan Ranes
Jad Fair
Arrington de Dionyso

Keep cueing these up every weekday morning! We appreciate your readership.


October 13, 2017
8:05 am

I co-founded North of the Internet with my friend Julien for a few reasons. One is to bring creators’ more internal, subconscious thoughts to the wider world. Another is more selfish, to understand myself and others a little better.

For instance, I now understand that some people are gifted with a rosy, addictive energy that makes you want to be around them. You can kind of learn it, but I think it’s innate. Harness and master that ability and you’ll do just fine.

On that note, we could have spoken to these five forever:

Stephen Emmer
Chandrika Tandon
David Babbitt
Dhani Harrison

Read, enjoy and cherish!


PS. It’s been an incredible first week making the jump from weekly to daily conversations. Thank you.

October 9, 2017
6:10 am

Friends and readers,

Today, we are thrilled to announce that we are ramping up our operation!

North of the Internet is hard-launching and premiering one brand-new conversation posted every day at 6am EST.

Without further ado, please enjoy our conversation with the brilliant singer-songwriter and actress Ayo.

From now until forever, pull up North of the Internet on your commute, on a walk, or over coffee every morning for fresh perspectives and piercing insights from brilliant creatives.


Morgan, Julien & Mia

PS. Our weekly newsletterwill be moved from Wednesday to Friday to reflect each week’s posts.

September 27, 2017
5:00 pm

I’m writing from a beautiful house in Connecticut that was built before America was. There’s goldenrod & apple trees & a baby.

Nonetheless, I’m thinking about New York and everyone I’ve met there.

I don’t consider North of the Internet to be a music publication, but I wish I could tell my Rolling Stone Album Guide-reading 14-year-old self about it.

So hey, kid, I talked to:

Ken Stringfellow (The Posies, ex-Big Star)
Mark Shue (Guided by Voices)
Kid Millions (Oneida, Man Forever)

You can’t say it wasn’t interesting.


September 20, 2017
3:00 pm

The Alekhine Defense is one of the most clever, incendiary openings in chess.

It’s popular advice to control the center of the board, but the Alekhine Defense forces your opponent to overextend that principle. In other words, they grip that center a little too much. They show a crack or two. Congrats, you’re leading the game.

Some people have the ability to perforate our emotional barriers and scramble the contents a little bit. They can help us understand our own feelings and beliefs.

I spoke with three of them.

Pegi Young (Pegi Young & the Survivors)
Lydia Loveless
Buzz Osborne (The Melvins)

How can we Alekhine up our lives a little?


September 13, 2017
3:20 pm

Dear readers,

As Loudon Wainwright sang, it’s a hard day on the planet. Sometimes I think its brakes failed and we’re rolling down the hill.

Even as we take out a mailbox, I’ve been singing and dancing to a joyful album, an ode to love. I spoke with the man who made it.

Further joy: I got in touch with a young drummer who has a trenchant perspective on creation, fame and why our words matter.

Mike Scott (The Waterboys)
Spencer Tweedy (Tweedy)

That’s my story (and I’m sticking to it.)


September 6, 2017
4:00 pm

NOTI readers,

In 2016, I met a great designer who was giving a conference to hundreds of people in Milan. A few hours later, we had accidentally met in a bar, talking about Chicago, music, travels and creative inspiration in general.

As luck would have it, I ran into a phenomenal American filmmaker and documentarian soon after. He’s been living in New York City for so many years and is probably the original hipster.

Now, I’m happy to share the results:

Jeff Boddy (The Mill)
Mark Obenhaus (The Documentary Group)

Who knows who you’ll bump into this week?


August 30, 2017
2:10 pm

The fall equinox isn’t for another month, but summer is beginning to lessen its oppression, that indeterminate feeling, the edge taken off a little bit, a hand off the scruff of your collar.

Here’s what I’ve been enjoying during this ever-so-transitory part of the year:

o Nightnoise – Shadow of Time (1993)
o Jay Thomas’ appearances on Letterman
o Music: What Happened? by Scott Miller

I also spoke with these folks:

Cyn M (Silence in the Snow)
Chris Bruni (Profound Lore Records)
Patrick Kindlon (Self Defense Family)

May the results serve you well!


August 23, 2017
1:00 pm

This week we’re happy to introduce the concept of Conversational Eclipse. When planets align, a small moon can influence a large star and here on planet Earth, we may witness in awe.

Try to guess what artists align in the following talks, no cardboard glasses necessary.

William Schaff
Micah Gaugh
Mishka Shubaly


August 16, 2017
3:20 pm

Dear readers,

Macaws can be differentiated from other parrots by longer beaks, longer tails and light facial patches – each as individual as a human fingerprint.

North of the Internet can be differentiated from other websites by its serenity, minimalism and commitment to dignity and beauty.

We have three new conversations and they are gilded in gold and green and indigo:

Michelle Zauner (Japanese Breakfast, Little Big League)
Tom Brosseau
Marcus Fjellström**

Now, keep your eyes peeled for rare birds.


**Second degree conversation

August 2, 2017
3:10 pm

A retrograde planet is the result of an earthly optical illusion. Before Mercury goes into retrograde next week, North of the Internet will take a break from publishing conversations to get our shit right and prepare for the celestial phenomenon.

It will be a perfect time to catch up on past conversations, re-read articles and to share, tweet and post your favorites.

This week we are happy to share conversations with:

James Jackson Toth (Wooden Wand)

Phillip Niemeyer (The John-Pauls, Northern-Southern)

North of the Internet will be back August 16 with fresh topics and perspectives.

Happy retrograding!

July 26, 2017
3:00 pm

North of the internet is not immune to the high temperatures of summertime.
Here, at NOTI Headquarters EU, we drink the traditional summertime beverage known simply as The Spritz*. While not strictly obligatory, we feel this week’s conversations are best paired with the refreshing beverage of your choice.

The Spritz

B 3 Parts Prosecco DOC
B 2 Parts Aperol
B 1 Part Soda Water

Pour over ice, garnish with orange wedge or lemon twist.

This week we have moved beyond the ground floor and entered into the second degree of NOTI conversations. The beauty of this project has begun as interviewees become interviewers. Past conversations turn to converse with artists and creatives of their choosing. It is an exciting time to see the tree of NOTI grow further reaching branches.

This issue features conversations about sensory deprivation, dream remembrance and instinctual parenting with:

Phil Elverum (The Microphones, Mount Eerie)
Francesca DiMattio** by Alexis Gideon
Mckenzie Scott (Torres)** by Eric Slick

Thanks and happy reading!

Mia, Julien and Morgan

*Not an endorsement 
**Second degree conversation

July 19, 2017
5:00 pm

North of the internet is a rapidly growing boom town, positioned on a far corner of the untapped internet, and overflowing with creative possibilities to encounter and collect.

Each week our conversations delve deeper into what it means to be an artist, creative and everyday human.

This week we introduce Elemental Elaborations and we talk alchemy, architecture of the universe, Baroque, Renaissance, John Cage, Vincente Minnelli, sulfate, Jim O’Rourke, a Celestial Monochord, mental images, nightmares, Hawaii, death, habitat and Eucalyptus, with three very inspiring characters:

Avey Tare (Animal Collective)
David Grubbs (Gastr Del Sol, Bastro)
Alexis Gideon


Julien, Mia & Morgan.

July 12, 2017
4:00 pm

NOTI  friends & family,

We are proud to share our third batch of conversations.

Today, we are honored to have spoken with two musicians – both principal members of the band Eyelids – and an amazing graphic designer.

Christopher Slusarenko (Eyelids, ex-Guided by Voices)
John Moen (Eyelids, The Decemberists)
Bas Mantel (Kades-Kaden, Rev. Laboratories)

We have many more awesome conversations to come. As always, feel free to sign up for our newsletter  to stay up to date.


J & M

July 5, 2017
9:50 am

The response to North of the Internet’s soft launch on June 21 has been spectacular.

Starting today, we will share new conversations every Wednesday.

This week, we are happy to introduce numerical and alphabetical elaborations with:

Eric Slick (Dr. Dog, Lithuania)
Eugene Robinson (Oxbow)

Thank you, and happy reading!

J & M

June 21, 2017
9:50 am

North of the Internet Atlas, June 21 2017. Photography by Alessio Federico.

We are proud to introduce North of the Internet after months of work and constant involvement of a team of people disseminated all over the world.

We will start with six conversations, featuring:

Steve Albini (Shellac, Electrical Audio)
Jamie Stewart (Xiu Xiu)
Nimai Larson (Prince Rama)
Kevin Shea (Storm & Stress)
John Dieterich (Deerhoof)
Barbara Lehnhoff (Peter Kernel, Camilla Sparksss)

The site will be updated with new conversations every week.
Expect new content every Wednesday starting July 5th 2017.

We highly recommend subscribing to our weekly newsletter. We also have a Facebook account as well as Twitter.

Enjoy reading!

Julien & Morgan

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